Curse

draxynnic · Jul 07, 2008, 04:06 AM // 04:06

The point is having the access to get to those events.

If you can afk, that's true. (I'm a little upset right now at one of my housemates starting a big download last night - cheated me out of actively participating in one event and out of two events worth of afking when Guild Wars followed the rest of the internet and dropped entirely. Possibly three, if the first one was the one I finally got lucky on)

If that hadn't happened, and if I manage to get home early today, I could be have/been actively present at 6 showings - being, local times, 7pm Sunday, 9pm Sunday, 11pm Sunday, 1am Monday morning, 9am Monday morning, and 5pm Monday afternoon. That includes staying up late and shaving a little at both ends of the work day - I can get away with it, but some can't. Admittedly, those that can't may well have caught the 7am session instead - which is what I would have done had I known the connection was suddenly going to go CHUG!

Compare to someone in the US - they can get up at, say, 7 and hit every event to midnight, and hit all but three events without doing anything special except return to the computer every two hours. With a bit of preparation, someone could nap through Saturday afternoon, get up in time for the 2am Sunday session and go all the way through, and if they didn't have to work too early on Monday morning they could arrive at work refreshed.

Timezones don't change the total number of events, but can make a big difference to how many you can get to when you have most of them landing in a working day.

DéesseBrighid · Jul 07, 2008, 04:09 AM // 04:09

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Originally Posted by Parson Brown

The event takes place over a 24 hour period. No matter where in the world you are, you get the same number of day/night events.

That may be true but you obviously didn't actually read the post of the person you were quoting... It really isn't fair to the Australians when their 24 hour period starts at pretty much bedtime and ends pretty much before they get done with work the next day... Whether they have the same number of events or not, they still miss out due to the fact that their time is ahead of us and their event ends up being on a workday (MONday), not a weekend (SUNday).

Lest121 · Jul 07, 2008, 04:09 AM // 04:09

Dear Anet Thank you for my free gifts.

Dawgboy · Jul 07, 2008, 04:34 AM // 04:34

I likes it.

They even made it every 2 hours instead of every 3 to satiate the prezzy thieves who were bound to whine about it. Some folks would cry if presents dropped every minute of the day, though.

Lady Lozza · Jul 07, 2008, 05:43 AM // 05:43

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Originally Posted by Parson Brown

The event takes place over a 24 hour period. No matter where in the world you are, you get the same number of day/night events.

Let's take the "average" gamer. They are 20-30 years old. In Australia we finish study around 21-22 years, this is study for proper professions (with the exception of medicine which takes much longer).

Conclusion - most Australian gamers work.

About 70% of the working population works day shifts. Most day shifts are 8am-5pm.

Conclusion - most Australian gamers are at work between 8am and 5pm.

Gaming at work is a no no. In many cases games are completely blocked, even if you can manage to install it on your machine.

Conclusion - most Australian gamers cannot be ingame between 8am and 5pm.

Australia's east coast is +10 GMT. The finale events started at 7pm Sunday night. The finale event finishes at 5pm Monday evening.

Conclusion - Most Australian gamers will be sleeping or working during the majority of the final events with no possible way of getting online except afking.

Let's say workers everywhere go to bed at 10pm local time (I do) and get up around 6am with absolutely no time for play before work.

Conclusion - working Australian gamers can attend 2 events.

Summary, working Australian gamers can attend, at most 2-3 events. US gamers ~7, EU gamers ~6. How is this fair?

credit · Jul 07, 2008, 05:45 AM // 05:45

It makes my life a whole lot easier, just leave your character on the nine rings and get presents while you do it, too!

HawkofStorms · Jul 07, 2008, 06:58 AM // 06:58

WoW Lady Lozza. That's just... fail.
No matter how you try to explain it, your 24 hours is no less then anybody else's 24 hours... period. Time is constant, unless light is moving slower over there in Australia, which I'm sure its not. Using your logic...

I'm in EST.
The event started at 3 am local (I was asleep).
I work Sunday.
I also go to church on Sundays, like most religious denominations.
I therefore only had a chance to go to 2 events.
Therefore, A.net hates us who live on the eastern US and work night shifts.

Conspiracy theory much? I went to both events I could make. If you really want it/care enough to complain about it on a message board, you should care enough to show up. Also, you are posting on these message board (according to the time stamp) at the same time you are supposedly at work and unable to use the internet for personal business... but you clearly are, defeating your own arguement.

Lady Lozza · Jul 07, 2008, 08:07 AM // 08:07

Oh Hawk, last I saw I never suggested Australians get screwed over because Anet hates us. It just so happens that because of our timezone we don't get to participate in many events at all, that's a fact.

The sun doesn't move any slower, time doesn't go faster. Australia is just a very long distance from the US and unfortunately there are a lot of things Anet does which adversely affect us. Conspiracy, no.

Next I said gaming at work was a no in any environment. Internet for small amounts of personal use is fine, if you don't like that answer - not my problem, company policy where I work. Just like I am going to assume that your denomination is fine with work on Sunday because I know some churchas, in Australia at least, still view that as a sin.

Finally my calculations on how many events Americans and EUs could attend works like this. You get up at 8 and go to bed at 10. Personal time in between is 14 hours. Events are every two hours, that's 7 events.

If you have PERSONAL commitments which keep you from attending during that time period, that is one thing. SLEEP and WORK are different.

Operative 14 · Jul 07, 2008, 08:43 AM // 08:43

Not to interrupt this lovely argument about who got screwed over more, but...

Is it possible the reason some got double the presents that others got was because they were standing next to NPCs? Through all the festivities I attended, I got 13 gifts only. However, my friends were standing near an NPC, so I was standing next to it for the duration of the last event while the gifts were dropping, and I got 26 gifts.

I've heard that in the past, especially for DF 2007(Not the Redux) where the presents were uncustomized, the presents would spawn next to the NPCs as well as the players. I think I inadvertently used that to great effect then. Perhaps it's the same mechanic, just carried over into a new distribution method?

Lady Lozza · Jul 07, 2008, 08:49 AM // 08:49

Heh, if there were another gift giving event I'd try that out...
Speaking of which, does anyone know why it has ended yet? I thought the last finale event was supposed to be nearly 2 hours ago...

Sweet Mystery · Jul 07, 2008, 10:24 AM // 10:24

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Originally Posted by DéesseBrighid

That may be true but you obviously didn't actually read the post of the person you were quoting... It really isn't fair to the Australians when their 24 hour period starts at pretty much bedtime and ends pretty much before they get done with work the next day... Whether they have the same number of events or not, they still miss out due to the fact that their time is ahead of us and their event ends up being on a workday (MONday), not a weekend (SUNday).

Events are always times to Pacific time... now there is free stuff no need to moan. Can simply AFK.... still get the free stuff...

Be thankful there was an event with free stuff, I am.... and the easy accessible victory tokens helped me max a title, bonus....

Ctb · Jul 07, 2008, 01:14 PM // 13:14

They might as well just remove the requirement that you even log in. Really, the whole gift part of it is just a hassle if you don't get the fun of racing around to ninja the AFKers' stuff when it loses its assignment.

At least just slap all the presents in at once. It really stinks having to stand around in Shing Jea for 20 minutes listening to the typically inane chatter that you get there....

Although, it was fun trying to help the grasps win. It's actually almost harder to get the stupid things to come after you than to just run to the sorcerers...

Kook~NBK~ · Jul 07, 2008, 02:11 PM // 14:11

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Originally Posted by Operative 14

I personally like it quite a bit.

It allows you to just hangout and have fun with your friends, instead of having to run around and pick up gifts. And far, far, FAR better then the original way where you had to scramble around and try to get your share.

And vultures be darned, I think it's funny they can't go pick up the AFKer's gifts.

It was nice that there were none of those same vultures fighting and crying over the stuff. And those with slower connections didn't feel short-changed because they couldn't be as quick on the draw when it came to picking up drops. I think this was the main reason that the tone of the event was so up-beat. GG, A-Net!

Hyper.nl · Jul 07, 2008, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Hm, no more present rushing at boardwalk area.

But I like it. I kept my comp connected last night and got free AFK presents. :-)

MithranArkanere · Jul 07, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59

What is better? Leeches or vultures?

sixofone · Jul 07, 2008, 03:03 PM // 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Operative 14

Not to interrupt this lovely argument about who got screwed over more, but...

Is it possible the reason some got double the presents that others got was because they were standing next to NPCs? Through all the festivities I attended, I got 13 gifts only. However, my friends were standing near an NPC, so I was standing next to it for the duration of the last event while the gifts were dropping, and I got 26 gifts.

I've heard that in the past, especially for DF 2007(Not the Redux) where the presents were uncustomized, the presents would spawn next to the NPCs as well as the players. I think I inadvertently used that to great effect then. Perhaps it's the same mechanic, just carried over into a new distribution method?

Nope. I stood right on top of Kisu at all 3 events I made it to (no afk for me!) and only got 12/13/13, so standing next to a NPC isn't the difference.

I like the new system. Plus, it did have events only those who are actively on can participate in. We all got gifts, but only orb runners got tokens. And for those doing rings, why not? Doing 9 rings is participating in the Festival!

What I don't understand is why some people got 26??

MithranArkanere · Jul 07, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11

The gifts given should have been Dependant on number of points over the enemy:

<100: 5
100..200: 10
>300:20

Trub · Jul 07, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

The gifts given should have been Dependant on number of points over the enemy:

<100: 5
100..200: 10
>300:20

Pfffft?
I got to dance with total strangers, and get freebies...why would I question how many freebies I recieved?

Twonaiver · Jul 07, 2008, 03:31 PM // 15:31

its perfect now, i feel much more lag this way than the other, but its much more fair than present snatchers killing for others presents, i think the only ones complaining are them, good job anet

lyra_song · Jul 07, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

i put my char afk in shing jea and had around 70 presents when i got home ^_^

thanks anet~